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Rove gets fingered
Newsweek calls first dibs; "The Rove Factor?
Now the story may be about to take another turn. The e-mails surrendered by Time Inc., which are largely between Cooper and his editors, show that one of Cooper's sources was White House deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, according to two lawyers who asked not to be identified because they are representing witnesses sympathetic to the White House. Cooper and a Time spokeswoman declined to comment. But in an interview with NEWSWEEK, Rove's lawyer, Robert Luskin, confirmed that Rove had been interviewed by Cooper for the article. It is unclear, however, what passed between Cooper and Rove.
Blair confirms Downing Street Minutes
Adam Price: Does the Prime Minister still regard Sir Richard Dearlove as having been a reliable source of information on Iraq? If so, is it safe to assume that Sir Richard's statement in the summer of 2002 that the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy was an accurate assessment of the intentions and actions of the Bush Administration?
The Prime Minister: As I am sure the hon. Gentleman knows, that memo and other documents of the time were covered by the Butler review. In addition, that was before we went to the United Nations and secured the second resolution, 1441, which had unanimous support. Contrary to the hon. Gentleman's view, when I stood next to the new Prime Minister of Iraq, who had five of his relatives assassinated by Saddam, and realised that he was in power because of the democratic votes of 8 million Iraqis, I was glad that we took the action that we did and ensured that Iraq was no longer governed by a dictatorship but by a democracy.
Rove outed CIA op Plame?
Lawrence O'Donnell stated last night that the high-level Whitehouse leak that outed WMD specialist and undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame was directly from Repub political guru Karl Rove.
"What we're going to go to now in the next stage, when Matt Cooper's e-mails, within Time Magazine, are handed over to the grand jury, the ultimate revelation, probably within the week of who his source is.
"And I know I'm going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of...for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine's going to do with the grand jury."
This morning O'Donnell posted this at Arianna Huffington's blog
I revealed in yesterday's taping of the McLaughlin Group that Time magazine's emails will reveal that Karl Rove was Matt Cooper's source. I have known this for months but didn't want to say it at a time that would risk me getting dragged into the grand jury.
McLaughlin is seen in some markets on Friday night, so some websites have picked it up, including Drudge, but I don't expect it to have much impact because McLaughlin is not considered a news show and it will be pre-empted in the big markets on Sunday because of tennis.
Since I revealed the big scoop, I have had it reconfirmed by yet another highly authoritative source. Too many people know this. It should break wide open this week. I know Newsweek is working on an 'It's Rove!' story and will probably break it tomorrow.
This makes sense. On a 2003 broadcast of "Hardball" with Chris Matthews, Matthews claimed that Rove had told him Plame was "fair game" since she was outed by Robert Novak's article days earlier. This opened up a response of character attacks that distracted the public eye from the important issues that were reveled in Wilson's article that questioned major portions in the case for war with Saddam Husein. But if
this is true question is now, 'who told Rove?' He is not in a position to be informed of actions within the CIA. I think it's Lewis Libby.
this is true, this will be the best 4th of July ever!
"[W]e need more protection for the methods we use to gather intelligence and more protection for our sources, particularly our human sources, people that are risking their lives for their country. Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious, of traitors."
Southern autonomy and the Iraqi Civil War
A lot of lefty bloggers say that there is an ongoing civil war taking place in Iraq right now. While that may be a nice frame I don't think calling it a civil war is correct, yet. For the most part the Sunnis have antagonized the other parties in their country but have been unable to spark any major conflict; which is, as most agree, a main goal of the insurgency in Iraq. I wrote about the mysterious activities
that have taken place in Baghdad and around Iraq involving Sunni citizens being beaten and murdered by Iraqi police (although they could have been Sunnis impersonating Shiites who dominate the police) in order to further prod a future Civil War.
Anyway, if this war does occur; I think the beginnings of it will be in Southern Iraq. It is here where there is a major movement to create a region in the South
of Iraq that would have "the same broad powers that the Kurds now have, including an independent parliament, ministries and regional military force." A group of secular Southern Shiites, including Ahmad Chalabi
, lead the charge that is similar to the desires of the Kurdish citizens in the Northern area of Iraq. This may give the Kurdish independence movement more legitimacy and momentum, resulting in a three-way split of Iraq which would not be well received by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, or Iran; as well as the rest of the region
if the situation gets out of hand.
The reasoning for the movement is centered on oil/money which was held from the region by Saddam and is not reaching them now
The politicians argue that the long-impoverished south has never gotten its fair share of the country's oil money, even though the bulk of Iraqi oil reserves lie near Basra, at the head of the Persian Gulf.
The advocates of autonomy say that while the south has 80 to 90 percent of Iraq's oil reserves, the country's only ports and its richest date palm groves, the neglect under Mr. Hussein's rule is painfully evident: many of the avenues here resemble garbage dumps, open sewage floods some streets, and shantytowns dot the landscape. The south should have partial or full control over how its oil wealth and other income are distributed, the federalists say.
Another reason is frustration with the current government in Iraq
"There's no democracy in Iraq," Mr. Yasseen said, expressing the deep suspicions of moderate and secular Shiites. "Anyone who says there's democracy has a little Saddam in his head. He wants to become a Saddam."
Aid for the Kurds is giving support to the Balkanization of Iraq, and must be worrying Washington and the surrounding nations of the region.
"I support a real region in the south," said Abdul Khalik Zengana, a senior official in the Kurdistan Democratic Party, one of the two main Kurdish parties. "That will help our interests, and it will help to enhance federalism in Iraq. We bless this step. But we also think southern federalism should be decided on by a referendum of people in the south."
One interesting opponent is young radical Cleric Moktada al-Sadr; whom I would have thought would be for it. Shows what I know.
Some Army recruitment numbers
back on 9 June
Although the Army will not release its numbers until Friday, it fell about 25 percent short of its target of signing up 6,700 recruits in May, officials said Wednesday. The gap would have been even wider but for the fact that the target was lowered by 1,350. Yesterday
Senior Army officials said in interviews earlier in the day that the Army exceeded the quota of 5,650 recruits by about 500 people.
So basically they lowered the target.
The Plame leak case - one step closer to a conclusion
Time Inc. will hand over subpoenaed notes
Time editor has announced that he will turn over the identity of whomever leaked the identity of CIA operative Valerie Plame in retaliation for ambassador Joe Wilson's OpEd regarding the yellow cake
falsehood that bushCo. used to push the invasion of Iraq.
It is getting hard to keep track of all this proof, average Americans are probably overwhelmed.
I'm kind of split on this; freedom of the press is essential to our democracy. However, this particular case endangered anyone associated with Mrs. Plame, as well as compromise national security.
2 Atlantic Hurricanes this June - FREAK OUT!!!
Ooops... We don't do that here, but this is the type of idea the MSM would express in order to tease your senses. They would try to tell you that the current tropical system, Brett, and the earlier system, Arlene, is an unusual event for June and that we are in a horrible hurricane season; which would mean things are returning back to normal. Anyway Dr. Masters
has looked into any connection but found none, most recently 1986
when two June storms led the way into a dud of a season.
Masters 3rd paragraph is interesting (I've added one link)
Examination of other Junes reveals that there is no significant correlation between June tropical storm activity and the rest of hurricane season. However, the position and intensity of the Bermuda High and sea surface temperatures in the tropical Atlantic are more typical of what things should be like a month from now. We are already beginning to see strong tropical waves with impressive satellite presentations come off the coast of Africa, and that is unusual for June. In fact, the GFS model takes one of those waves and develops it into a hurricane next week as it sweeps north of the Leeward Islands, past Bermuda around July 6, then out to sea. It will be interesting to see if the GFS model is correct. If so, this would likely be the harbinger of an active hurricane season.
The crash in Afghanistan and some history
It's looking like the recent crash of a US military Chinook helicopter
was brought down by enemy fire. 17 missing. While this is bad, when put next to history it is even more chilling. This caught my attention
If confirmed, Tuesday's attack would apparently be the first time a U.S.-led coalition aircraft here has been downed by hostile fire, representing a major new threat to the coalition. The U.S.-backed mujahideen war against Soviet occupiers in Afghanistan in the 1980s finally turned when the Afghan fighters began shooting down Soviet aircraft.
Again this has not been confirmed.
Total injuries in Iraq from the VA
Looks like we'll get a closer look into what the cost has been in injuries from Iraq and Afghanistan, from Veterans Affairs
The Veterans Administration assumed it would have to take care of 23,553 patients who are veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but that number had been revised upward to 103,000, Nicholson told a House of Representatives panel.
Nicholson told a House Appropriations subcommittee that his agency's estimate of Iraq and Afghanistan veterans in need of health care services was now four times greater than thought.
this creates another $2.6 billion bill we'll need to pay whenever we get rid of this leadership. These republicans do not support the troops and their president has said they do.
The Senate debated on Tuesday a proposal by a group of Democrats to add $1.4 billion to veterans' health care funding for next year.
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada chided Republicans for finally acknowledging a problem. He noted that early attempts by Democrats to add money for veterans health care were "voted down on a strictly partisan vote."
Bush speaks at Fort Brag; Prime Time
First of all Iraq and Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 11 September 2005. That is very true, accept it. Therefore, your entire rational was wrong for invading Iraq. I do however support our troops and I support your decision to stay the course without a time table. Leaving now would be a worse mistake than going to war in the first place. I would like to know how and why we went into Iraq instead of fighting the terrorist
in Afghanistan; the base of bin Laden, al-Qaeda, and the Taliban. I would like to know why the greatest force on the planet lack armor and are unable to control parts of the country. How is that support? Each time we sweep through the triangle we lose more (wo)men; yet we don’t send the extra troops needed to quell the violence. It’s your call Mr. President but I’d send a few more troops. Furthermore, why do we send our troops and Iraqi troops out on patrol but at the end of the mission they are split back up? There is no unity between the hybrid units if it only spends time together on patrol.
I thought your use of the Lebanon elections was disingenuous; Lebanon has always been a democracy. It was once weighted towards the Christian population, now it is even. That is good. But what developed was a once limited Hezbollah almost tripling their power. So, sir, take this out of your resume, it is not your accomplishment.
Some other things I noticed was when he said ‘the sober
opinion of an officer’ or something…
Is Bush drinking?
I also noticed his face when he claimed was talking about leaving, I don’t think he has any plans to leave anytime soon.
The Bush speech tonight
Some good thoughts of what is to be expected tonight here
(@ dKos) by Lawnorder
Will Bush blame liberals Tuesday night ?JustWinBaby
- Rove did: liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to .. offer therapy and understanding for our attackers
- O'Reilly did: [Durbin's] intent was to whip up the American public against the Bush detainee policy
- WSJ did: Iraqis are continuing to make .. political and military gains. Where the terrorists are gaining ground is in Washington, D.C.
- Santorum did: it is no surprise that Boston, a seat of academic, political and cultural liberalism in America, lies at the center of the [Priest sex scandal]..
- Joe Wilson, R-SC did: Liberals hunt down and kill Americans..
Blaming fellow Americans suggests desperation. Bush is now backed into a corner. And that's when just about any living creature fights with all they have to preserve the status quo... This is the moment when Bushianity will be the most dangerous. How far will they go ? The key to the answer lies tomorrow night.
(also @ dKos) has a diary that will help even the dimmest American see through the rhetoric of bushCo. and hopefully send bush back to Washington looking worse off that he was this morning
The war in Iraq has nothing to do with Sept. 11. Saddam Hussein was a sworn enemy of Washington, but there was no Iraq-Qaeda axis, no connection between Saddam Hussein and the terrorist attacks on the United States. Yet the president and his supporters continue to duck behind 9/11 whenever they feel pressure about what is happening in Iraq.
The war has not made the world, or this nation, safer from terrorism. The breeding grounds for terrorists used to be Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia; now Iraq has become one.
If the war is going according to plan, someone needs to rethink the plan. Questioning our planning, tactics, and strategy is not being "soft on terror." Only idiots believe that. We are in a difficult situation because Bush and his advisors made a risky gamble and lost. They thought it would be a "cakewalk" and now they must face up to the hard questions. Simply asking these questions is not being "soft on terrorism."
Yes, it is possible to be for our continued robust operations hunting Al Qaida and Bin Laden in Afghanistan while being strongly against the Iraq war. It is not only logical, many Americans, perhaps even a majority, now feel this way.
Possibility of a Civil War in Iraq
This Guerilla War in Iraq has been raging for 10 months at a sustained rate of at least
2 kills/day. The violence has been largely from the Sunni side with the Kurds and the South seeking and using political power. However, I just caught this
Days after Iraq's new Shiite-led government was announced on April 28, the bodies of Sunni Muslim men began turning up at the capital's central morgue after the men had been detained by people wearing Iraqi police uniforms.
Faik Baqr, the director and chief forensic investigator at the central Baghdad morgue, said the corpses first caught his attention because the men appeared to have been killed in methodical fashion. Their hands had been tied or handcuffed behind their backs, their eyes were blindfolded and they appeared to have been tortured. In most cases, the dead men looked as if they'd been whipped with a cord, subjected to electric shocks or beaten with a blunt object and shot to death, often with single bullets to their heads.
This happens multiple times a week but there is no enforcement from the new Iraqi Police; Shiite dominated. The witnesses are there but no one is asking for their story.
The U.S. deflects by pointing out that uniforms can be bought at multiple locations. That doesn't account for the equipment they use
...eyewitnesses said that many of the dead were apprehended by large groups of men driving white Toyota Land Cruisers with police markings. The men were wearing police commando uniforms and bulletproof vests, carrying expensive 9-millimeter Glock pistols and using sophisticated radios, the witnesses said.
If the killers are proven to be Sunni insurgents masquerading as Shiite police, the murders raise troubling questions about how insurgents are getting expensive new police equipment. The Toyotas, which cost more than $55,000 apiece, and Glocks, at about $500 each, are hard to come by in Iraq, and they're rarely used by anyone other than Western contractors and Iraqi security forces.
Tom Lasseter and Yasser Salihee (Salihee was "shot and killed last week in Baghdad in circumstances that remain unclear.
") point out another chip in bushCo.
Further evidence that a police force created, trained and funded by the United States has been abusing human rights, on the other hand, would complicate the Bush administration's efforts to muster greater domestic support for its Iraq policy and more international support for the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al Jaafari.
to which Raad Sultan, an official in Iraq's Ministry of Human Rights said "some Interior Ministry employees have tortured Iraqis whom they suspected of supporting the insurgency."
Before March 2003, he said, the morgue handled 200 to 250 suspicious deaths a month, about 16 of which included firearm injuries. He said he now sees 700 to 800 suspicious deaths a month, with some 500 having firearm wounds.
This could be Sunnis trying to add a spark to the civil war which makes sense to me if you ignore the equipment. It could also be Negroponte style death squads, or an out of control Security force. Whatever it is it is not good.
Before March 2003, he said, the morgue handled 200 to 250 suspicious deaths a month, about 16 of which included firearm injuries. He said he now sees 700 to 800 suspicious deaths a month, with some 500 having firearm wounds.
Some of the witness accounts below...
Many Iraqis say the giveaway that the abductors are at least connected to the police is the preponderance of reports involving Land Cruisers, Glocks and other expensive equipment.
On May 5, for example, 14 Sunni farmers were picked up from an east Baghdad vegetable market. The farmers had driven to the capital from Madain, a town south of Baghdad where the month before Sunni insurgents allegedly had kidnapped and executed a number of Shiites.
The bodies of the farmers were discovered in shallow graves the next day. They'd been blindfolded and tortured, and their hands had been cuffed behind their backs.
In separate interviews this week, two men who were at the east Baghdad market at the time said they saw a large group of police detain the farmers.
"A patrol of more than 10 police vehicles drove up and parked," said Ali Karim, a fruit vendor. "They were running through the street with their guns, saying that the farmers had a car bomb with them. They pushed them against the walls and asked them for their IDs."
Another vendor, Ahmed Adil, gave a similar account in a separate interview.
"We were sitting, and the police cars pulled up and spread in different directions," Adil said. "A neighborhood guard asked the police what they were doing - he said these are just farmers - and the police said don't get involved, they have a car bomb with them."
A brigadier general in the Interior Ministry, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said his brother was taken during a large raid on May 14 in his working-class Sunni neighborhood in western Baghdad.
His brother's body was found a day later. It bore signs of torture.
The general, who wasn't there when his brother was detained, said he canvassed the neighborhood and interviewed one family after the next.
The descriptions of the abductors were identical in every case, he said: They came in white police Toyota Land Cruisers, wore police commando uniforms, flak vests and helmets. They also had Glocks.
The general said he's tried, through the Interior Ministry, to find out which commando unit was in that neighborhood when his brother disappeared. He also said colleagues have told him that his own life is now in danger.
A day before the general's brother disappeared in west Baghdad, Anwar Jassim, a Sunni welder at Iraq's ministry of industry and minerals, went missing from his south Baghdad home.
Jassim's family said he was taken by a large group of men dressed and equipped like police commandos.
Another man taken in Jassim's neighborhood, a local grocer who gave his name as Abu Ahmed, said he was taken to the same detention facility as Jassim. While he was there, he said, he and other men sat on the floor blindfolded and handcuffed. They listened to other prisoners screaming.
When the other prisoners were brought back into the room, Abu Ahmed said, they said they'd been pummeled with long wooden staffs.
"When we were in detention, they put blindfolds and handcuffs on us. On the second day, the soldiers were saying, `He's dead,' " said Abu Ahmed. "Later, we found out it was Anwar."
The abductors dropped Jassim's body at Baghdad's Yarmuk hospital the next day, hospital staffers said. According to hospital records, Jassim had a bullet wound in the back of his head and cuts and bruises on his abdomen, back and neck.
The man in charge of the Yarmuk morgue, who gave his name as Abu Amir, said he remembers the day the commandos brought Jassim's corpse.
"The commandos told me to keep the body outside of the refrigerator so that the dogs could eat it because he's a terrorist and he deserves it," Abu Amir said.
The killings didn't stop in May.
Saadi Khalif's body was also found at Yarmuk. The 52-year-old Sunni, along with his brother Mohammed, was taken from his home in western Baghdad on June 10. His abductors rode up in pickup trucks painted with Iraqi police insignia, his family said. About 10 came into the house, while about twice as many fanned out in the street outside, forming a security perimeter. They had radios, uniforms, flak vests and helmets, family members said.
"The doctor told us he was choked and tortured before they shot him," said Ahmed Khalif, one of Saadi's brothers. "He looked like he had been dragged by a car."
Mohammed Khalif, 47, also beaten and shot, still had on metal handcuffs at the Yarmuk morgue.
Militants crossing Syria into Iraq not backed by Damascus
(tip to Juan Cole
Former Iraqi leader: Militants crossing from Syria to Iraq not backed by Damascus
Egypt Iraq's former interim prime minister says militants crossing the Syrian border into Iraq are not being put up to it by the Syrian government.
Ayad Allawi (EE'-yahd ah-LAH'-wee) headed up the interim Iraqi government for nearly a year, stepping down in April. He's in Cairo seeking support for his plan for a conference to try to end the insurgency.
Well doesn't that throw a wrench into bushCo. plans for future wars. Allawi is a Repub. puppet but he was certainly in position to make an informed comment (that isn't a joke) on the matter. The fact that he has said this goes against everything we've heard from this administration; yet again.
The secret war on Iraq
via Raw Story
. Follow-up to this
Starting in late May to June of 2002 a flurry of activity began both in the United States and in the Middle East. In what appears to be an admission of covert activity, chief allied air force commander Lieutenant-General Michael Moseley divulged in a little-noticed quote in the New York Times that US/British aircraft flew 21,736 sorties between June 2002 and March 2003.
Moseley said that some 600 bombs were dropped before the official start of the war, targeting 391 locations and/or installations.Read more here
Moseley explained that the combination of air strikes and covert raids occurred in the southern no-fly zone regions covered by routine patrols.
The targets of these strikes are difficult to pinpoint, but RAW STORY has found a clear divergence between U.S. and Iraqi reports at the time, as well as disagreement over what provoked the strikes.
"It was no big secret at the time," GlobalSecurity.org director John Pike told RAW STORY. "It was apparent to us at the time that they were doing it and why they were doing it, and that was part of the reason why we were convinced that a decision to go to war had already been made, because the war had already started."
Pike says the allied forces used their position in the No-Fly- Zone to engage in pre-emptive action long before war was formally declared.
"They I think had decided to take advantage of Southern Watch and Northern Watch to go ahead and take the air defense system apart and attack any other targets that they felt needed to be preemptively destroyed," Pike asserted.
"They explicitly altered the rules of engagement," he added, "because initially the rules of engagement had been that they would shoot back if [someone] shot at them. Then they said that if they were shot at, they would shoot at whatever they wanted to."
One U.S. Air Force vet told a hearing in Istanbul this weekend, "I saw bombing intensify. All the documents coming out now, the Downing Street memo and others, confirm what I had witnessed in Iraq. The war had already begun while our leaders were telling us that they were going to try all diplomatic options first."
Bush to speak to America, not answer questions
I like David Corn's
(via Atrios) thoughts on the bush
...the problem is the war, not the rhetoric. Don't expect Bush to address that reality. A "mostly rhetorical" shift will gain him little. Americans can see the bad news out of Iraq, and a few finely crafted buzz phrases from Bush won't do much to convince them otherwise. I usually blast the broadcast networks when they do not air presidential addresses. But this time around I would find it tough to insist that they displace their usual assortment of sleazy reality shows and loaded-with-gross-details crime dramas for the latest White House word games.
Atrios agrees here
...I agree with David Corn that it'd be pretty silly for the networks to show Bush's speech. I also agree with him that usually I'd be annoyed if they didn't. But, there's no actual event prompting this speech other than his declining poll numbers, and somehow that doesn't really seem like a good enough reason. Press conference, yes. Speech alone, no.
General admits to secret air war
by Michael Smith
THE American general who commanded allied air forces during the Iraq war appears to have admitted in a briefing to American and British officers that coalition aircraft waged a secret air war against Iraq from the middle of 2002, nine months before the invasion began.
Addressing a briefing on lessons learnt from the Iraq war Lieutenant-General Michael Moseley said that in 2002 and early 2003 allied aircraft flew 21,736 sorties, dropping more than 600 bombs on 391 Âcarefully selected targetsÂ before the war officially started.
The nine months of allied raids Âlaid the foundationsÂ for the allied victory, Moseley said. They ensured that allied forces did not have to start the war with a protracted bombardment of Iraqi positions.
If those raids exceeded the need to maintain security in the no-fly zones of southern and northern Iraq, they would leave President George W Bush and Tony Blair vulnerable to allegations that they had acted illegally.
MoseleyÂs remarks have emerged after reports in The Sunday Times that showed an increase in allied bombing in southern Iraq was described in leaked minutes of a meeting of the war cabinet as Âspikes of activity to put pressure on the regimeÂ.
Moseley told the briefing at Nellis airbase in Nebraska on July 17, 2003, that the raids took place under cover of patrols of the southern no-fly zone; their purpose was ostensibly to protect the ethnic minorities.
A leaked memo previously disclosed by The Sunday Times, detailing a meeting chaired by the prime minister and attended by Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, Geoff Hoon, the then defence secretary, and Admiral Sir Michael Boyce, chief of defence staff, indicated that the US was carrying out the bombing.
But MoseleyÂs remarks, and figures for the amount of bombs dropped in southern Iraq during 2002, indicate that the RAF was taking as large a part in the bombing as American aircraft.
Details of the Moseley briefing come amid rising concern in the US at the war. A new poll shows 60% of Americans now believe it was a mistake.
Yet more evedence of wrongdoing surrounding the Iraq War
. OK, not evidence; but more discourse in foreign press. Where is that liberal
bushCo. reaches out to terrorist and insurgents
Talk about helping the enemy! This story couldn't have come at a better time. Rove, your a hack and a liar. Your party consists of a bunch of yuppies that would never serve their country; even when it needs them, let alone help anyone if there wasn't room for personal gain. Your party, sir, and their policies are the problem, and people are starting to realize that.
U.S. officials held secret talks in Iraq with the commanders of several Iraqi insurgent groups recently in an attempt to open a dialogue with them, a British newspaper reported Sunday.
The commanders "apparently came face to face" with four American officials during meetings on June 3 and June 13 at a summer villa near Balad, about 25 miles north of Baghdad, the Iraqi capital, according to The Sunday Times.
To be fair, I'm not against this for the most part. I believe that diplomacy has its uses in almost every situation. But to have this come out after Rove got a swing in on patriotic liberals is fitting and just another Repub lie.